
Where do I start? Tara asked me to be part of a dinner club with her friend Kara. Dinner? Restaurants? I am in.
I arrive at Sage armed with random topics of small talk (I just finished 2 great books, saw some good movies and there is always the opportunity to spread the gospel of How I Met Your Mother). It is a hodge podge of girls, all about my age that all know each other through a certain degree of separation, most of us are all meeting for the first time. As it is to be expected, most of the women are pregnant or have recently birthed. As it is to be expected, children were heavily the topic of conversation. Here are the some of the topics we touched on last night:
birth; bloody nipples; babies ingesting your blood; needing to sit on a pillow for 2 months; dilating; throwing up; throwing up at the kitchen table while eating dinner; diarrhea; the rancid smell of farts when you are sick; trying to nurse when you are full and it shooting everywhere (and the hand motion of liquid shooting out your boobs).
I understand that when you are a mom, it is all-consuming. There is no time for anything else and this is your life. You deserve to talk and tell your stories, please do not mistake me for criticizing people for talking about something I am not interested in. This just went a little too far.
I don't understand when a women gets pregnant, her private parts become open news. Do not share what your vagina is doing to total strangers. It is not appropriate. I am also one that believes there are some private issues in your house that should stay private. If it happens in the bathroom, let it stay. There is a reason bathrooms are so small: it is meant for just one person (unless you live in Sarah's bathroom, but that is meant for film equipment, but I digress). Then women become mothers and they don't think of what they are actually saying sometimes. Rancid farts as dinner conversation? No. Then they gross out if the skin is left on the fish. Seriously, you just went into detail about your three year old's digestion issues and fish skin pushes you over the edge? Take off the mommy blinders.
As I am listening to the bloody nipple story I am trying to add to the conversation. But what do I say? Do I ask for more detail about the bloody nipple? No, I don't want to encourage this. Do I tell a sister-in-law's birth story? No because who wants to hear about a stranger's birth story? Not me.
I see that there is no point in introducing a new topic. These women have not read a book or have seen a movie in years. There are moms. The are too busy cleaning up vomit and chasing naked kids (again, not criticizing, this is what they are suppose to be doing). I choose to just sit, listen, and look forward to my nice quiet house.
I know I don't understand the neanderthal method of the parasite/host relationship in gestation and I don't understand why anyone would freely choose to enter it. I also don't understand how women give themselves up entirely when they have children. I understand that kids are consuming, but if I was in the situation, I honestly believe that I would still watch CNN. I would make an effort to turn on NPR during the day to learn something and have something else to consume my mind and my conversation. There are moms that are out there that can have other conversations outside their children or tell a story that doesn't involve bodily fluids.
I know many of you are moms or going-to-be moms and I have put you a little on the defensive. I want to hear about your children. I do. Honestly. Please just edit before you open your mouth, just as I do. I do not talk about doctor's appointments, womanly issues, fluids, etc. I did not go into detail what what was oozing out of the shingles because it was not appropriate or needed. Please just edit.
Tara and Kara, you do a great job at editing. OK, never mind, Kara, you do a great job of editing. Thank you. Tara, you are good at talking about kids and then moving on.
My question is: how do I drive the conversation next month? I need to find mom-friendly topics. I realize movies and books are out. TV is probably out because I don't watch The Disney Channel. Current events? Usually too tragic (no bodily fluids at the dinner table). What else is there?
4 comments to No bodily fluids at the dinner table:
WOW Anna, I can tell that you are really upset! You have several spelling mistakes here!
Yes, sometimes I could edit more but just be thankful that I have never given birth. I hope that my private parts always remain private.
Tara
Two things -
1. I got my first really great laugh of the day when I came to my bathrooms mention. Thanks.
2. Amen. When did it become okay to talk about such gross things out in the open? I'm one chatty girl, and even I have limits, and like you, they pretty much revolve around no fluid talk. Fluids of any kind are not small talk fodder. It's the baby thing - I want women to enjoy that experience completely - that does not mean you need to tell me all about it.
Ok, as you know I am a very open person.
But!, I do agree that I do not care to hear about this 'stuff' while I am trying to enjoy a nice meal. There has to be something else to talk about.? What it is for you and these women puts me at a loss. Maybe gardening or cooking?
I could understand if it was these women in a room alone or if it was these women and solely their good friends because maybe one of them has a question or needs some advice or insight on how to deal with these gross matters. It is very inappropriate to discuss while there are people you are meeting for the first time in a room let alone a dinner table in a public place with a multitude of strangers surrounding you. Yes, poor Anna and whoever that server was...I feel sorry for them as well. This, my friends, is NOT Sex and the City or lack of Sex and all Babies in the City.
Are you sure you still want to attend this monthly dinner?
If there was this kind of talk at my monthly dinner, I would decline participation. That is just me.
Good luck to you dear.
Anna:
You should tell the moms where to take there kids for an educational outing, or give them an idea for a craft project (since you are good at that). Also as for NPR I will always have that on the radio one they play calm music witch is good for baby and I like the way the broadcasters speak so maybe my child will listen to NPR and not have a discusting southern accent. As for the gross stuff the only gross stuff I think I have told you is to watch that movie (which is gross)...you should see me in my birthing class I am the imature one who gets grossed out at all the shit they show us and Billy is like Bernadette shut up, get a grip you are acting like an idiot. I am like Billy did you see what happened that is nasty....Then Billy just rolls his eyes. As for nipples I guess you have to have boobs before you even talk about the nips!!! So I guess that means when I go into labor you do not want to be in the delivery room!!!!! Just kidding no one is allowed not even Phyllis Stovepipe that is discusting!!!
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